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#1 Scott in Bellingham

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 03:08 PM

if you could build or have built a Awesome offroad Subie what would it look like ? what would you build into it?

Heres one I cobbled up on the Comp:

it has a 89" wheelbase
Diesel engine
good aproach and departure angles
6-8" lift
31 or 33" tires
4 to 1 Transfer gear reduction
more travel then stock
on board compressor with 4 adjustable airshocks (plus stock springs), the airshocks would be controlled on the dash so on a side hill so could keep the vehicle somewhat stable
optional doors and hatch lid to keep the weight down below 2000LB


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#2 NoahDL88

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 03:14 PM

Theres a word for people like you, its either Crazy or Awesome, i can't quite remember though.

#3 MorganM

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 03:18 PM

Less talking; more building.

#4 Jerry DeMoss

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 03:32 PM

That would be cool but very scary going up sharp embankments.Looks like it would pop over on its backside really easy.



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The only thing I think its missing is big side pipe exhaust coming up behind the doors and a mustache bar front bumper.;)

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 04:22 PM

I'd start with a dinged up forester. Install an LSD. Remove the stock exhaust from the cat back and install a smaller dia pipe with no muffler. Then I'd install a 10hp nos. Next I'd take the plasma cutter to the fenders/frame/pans so I could stuff some 29's under it with no lift. This is when I'd remove the front bumper and fab up something similar to the bumper in the other thread. I have my own ideas but they are similar. Lets see......remove carpet, dash, plastic, (the cup holders stay). Move spare to the roof and insulate spare well to hold frosty bevies. Last thing would be to insert disturbed "the sickness" into the CD and superglue shut.

Of course people in hell want icewater too so I'll say that this would happen after I get the XT replacement for Dimples.
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Posted 01 November 2005 - 08:00 PM

The stock ~97" wheelbase of the ea82 is great for climbing. In fact most rockcrawling rigs go even a bit longer to around 110" However the overhang is the killer. I would bob the rear and cut the back hatch out ala Baja. Then, mount the rad over the engine like Subarubrat and chop the lower front end off at a ~45` angle.


For drivetrain: ej22 to DR 5spd to Nissan 720 tcase, running to front and rear nissan 720 r180 diffs. Then nissan long side axle shafts all around, with custom a-arm suspension utilizing the 720 pickup hubs all the way around. Then I would have durability with 33" tires, extremely long travel, and locking hubs on all 4. :P

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 08:28 PM

euu i already have plans for my "ultimate subaru"

some hatch
10inch lift
31inch super swamper boggers :)
15x8 rock crawler bead locks
divorced t-case
home made bumpers
not sure on the engine yet
snorkle
almost amphibious
2 1/2 inch straight pipe with a glass pack
twin batterys
about 5 pairs of kc's :)
kick rump roast stereo
custom body work made by nature
on board air
on board welder
8,000 pound winch on reciever bracket
some other stuff to

(i'm actually gona build this :)) along with my lifted golf cart, racing lawn mower. and other smaller hatch:lol:

#8 archemitis

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 10:03 PM

a hatch on solid axles, with an h6 or ej22.
32s or bigger

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 10:51 PM

some people must be daaaaamn loyal subaru worshipers to put all that money into that

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 10:53 PM

some people must be daaaaamn loyal subaru worshipers to put all that money into that


its custom baby, custom :headbang: very loyal we are indeed, but if you build the stuff yourself, it saves tons.

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 12:45 AM

It could look something like this?
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It only has a EA81 in it tho :rolleyes:

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 01:21 AM

Mine would be something like this:

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I would want something I could pack, travel and survive in for 7 days :)

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 01:32 AM

Mine would be something like this:


I would want something I could pack, travel and survive in for 7 days :)

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Don't forget the "northern alliance" sticker :banghead:

#14 Scott in Bellingham

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 10:21 AM

For drivetrain: ej22 to DR 5spd to Nissan 720 tcase, running to front and rear nissan 720 r180 diffs. Then nissan long side axle shafts all around, with custom a-arm suspension utilizing the 720 pickup hubs all the way around. Then I would have durability with 33" tires, extremely long travel, and locking hubs on all 4. :P


OK these r180 diffs what vehicle are they found in? is it the 720 truck only? and what gear ratio are they? , also you mention long side axle , does that mean the diff in the 720 truck is not center mounted and has 2 lengths of axles? I like this idea

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 10:24 AM

if you could build or have built a Awesome offroad Subie what would it look like ? what would you build into it?

Heres one I cobbled up on the Comp:

it has a 89" wheelbase
Diesel engine
good aproach and departure angles
6-8" lift
31 or 33" tires
4 to 1 Transfer gear reduction
more travel then stock
on board compressor with 4 adjustable airshocks (plus stock springs), the airshocks would be controlled on the dash so on a side hill so could keep the vehicle somewhat stable
optional doors and hatch lid to keep the weight down below 2000LB


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HEY! what happened to my car! :lol::lol: SWEET! getting good with that photoshop!
when I walk out into the drive way it better eather be like I left it, or ,,,,
completly done like in the photo:-p

If you move the front wheels forward like that,, how will the engine fit?
just wondering.

#16 archemitis

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 10:37 AM

some people must be daaaaamn loyal subaru worshipers to put all that money into that


i could build mine for less than i could buy a toyota pickup for.

one subaru 100-300 dollars
axles springs, other crap 300dollars
tires 400-500dollars
er27(with xt6) 100 dollars

not so bad

i rock the subarus because they are the cheapest of the cheap 4x4.

#17 archemitis

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 10:41 AM

It could look something like this?
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It only has a EA81 in it tho :rolleyes:


exactly like that, but with bigger tires. er27 and 6lugs, solids front and rear...
damn, after i finish this kz1000 restoration, i might get all twitchy on my hatch again...

all this body shortening and lengthening is not interesting to me in the least bit. just pick the hatch, or wagon to switch wheelbase length. you realy dont want anything shorter than a hatch.

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 11:33 AM

some people must be daaaaamn loyal subaru worshipers to put all that money into that


you new here?? :lol:

#19 Scott in Bellingham

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 11:52 AM

If you move the front wheels forward like that,, how will the engine fit?
just wondering.



with a transfercase conversion the engine stays up high in the stock location, and the front axles are driven by another diff from a driveshaft

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 12:05 PM

If I got the opportuninity to build my perfect idea of an off road soobie, it would look very much like this:

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I think the only change I go with is stronger rear axles, and a bigger fuel tank.

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 01:49 PM

If I got the opportuninity to build my perfect idea of an off road soobie, it would look very much like this:

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I think the only change I go with is stronger rear axles, and a bigger fuel tank.


agreed....but I think I'd add a grill too ;):-p

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 02:48 PM

With infinite cash flow...

EA82, bobbed tail, and Baja-ized
High compression EJ22
Beefed up EA82 D/R
T-case
Portaled axles (Dana 40? Unimog? Hummer?)
Steerable rear wheels
12"+ lift

#23 FirstSubaruGLwagon

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 03:42 PM

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:-p


Come on, everyone add something to it!!

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 05:38 PM

I think it needs a giant key on the back.:lol:

I'd bet there are a bunch of folks out there that are probably driving something real close to their dream machine?

Not that we don't need to keep pushing ahead with new ideas but,
I'm fairly impressed by some of the stuff that has already been built:cool:

Just a thought,
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Posted 02 November 2005 - 07:01 PM

OK these r180 diffs what vehicle are they found in? is it the 720 truck only? and what gear ratio are they? , also you mention long side axle , does that mean the diff in the 720 truck is not center mounted and has 2 lengths of axles? I like this idea


The r180s look almost identical to r160s just bigger, and they use flanges on the side outputs instead of those stupid splined stubs. The most common gear ratio is 4.375:1 (I think). They are mounted offset in the early-mid 80s datsun 720 4x4, with a long shaft on one side and a short on the other. They could be easily mounted centrally with long side shafts on each side. This would give a track about 6-8" bigger than a stock sube (by my eyeball estimation)

The way I would do it is to make a cage with a-arm mounts that holds the diff inside of it. A skinnier steering rack would have to be sourced for the front from a sandrail or perhaps a stock rack chopped up and modified. Using the stock rack would cause bump steer.

This would make pretty much the perfect IFS/IRS setup, but it requires more fabrication than I've seen on any off-road sube.




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