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I swear I'm not picking on you, but you said it. Do a google for the Rubicon's Cadillac Hill. If that isn't a "hardcore" trail then I haven't seen one yet. There was a group of three giant landcruisers sitting at the bottom waiting for a new trnasfer case cuz they blew one trying this hill. The drivers came out to cheer/jeer at us as we tackled it. You can hear just how impressed they were in the Subarubicon video.

hehe. The little hatch on the left just finished doing the trail all the jeeps in the photo finished. You should have seen the looks on each and every one of their faces as they spotted my little hatch was sitting at the top of the trail waiting for them. A welded diff, weber, 3 inch lift, 26 iinch coopers. that's it. Note the size of a few of those jeeps. Very hardcore indeed. (the two gl wagons were not up to the task and went the back way in on the gravel road btw)

Flex shmex. You need to go out with us to one of the local ORV Parks and watch these little Soobs in action before you count them out of the "hard core trail machine" off road club. Below is a pic of Ken with no flex climbing right up on that rock. The group of 4 solid axle rigs that were already there showing off their massive flex by crawling up on that rock all left with tails between their legs as soon as Ken did it. I think the perfect offroader (god, what is this the 10th thread like this?) would look something like one of the rigs below. Plenty capable for each and every trail we came across, and totally streetable. Two or more Soobies can tackle some pretty hardcore trails. As in the "most difficult" at Evans Creek. I bought a video of these guys in their huge rump roast monster trail rigs going thru Evans Creek. Then we went to the same trail and I filmed us from their same vantage points doing it in Subarus. The group below is the stuff legends are made of.

I just wish I had more time to come down and support you guys Jamie.

I'd suggest that anybody interested in t-shirts should pm Richie and get him to start up the for sale thread. Here's a pic of the long sleeve.

I was wondering if it was gonna be a secret mobile or not. lol Sounded pretty nice when you pulled away the other day. You'll do fine with it Ed. We have lots of springs to choose from when we lift it.

With an almost empty tank of gas: about 27. Probably closer to 30 when I load up with gas and a weekend's worth of stuff. I can roll over a basket ball and not touch it end to end.

All Terrain, Mud Terrain. BIG difference in tread pattern. The Kumho M/T will be way more aggressive. I imagine the sidewall of teh A/T isn't that thick. The kumho has a 6 ply sidewall.

Your approach angle looks pretty friggin sweet for an imp andyjo. If you raise the bumper, you expose the radiator support. Bumper's fine where it is. Ad a couple of beams from the bumper to the crossmember to skid along, or at least use as feelers rather than the header. You can use it to mount your skid plate later on down the line. The arrow is pointing to your actual approach angle.

I've had a pretty good experience with cheap come a longs. As cheap as 20 bucks when on sale at Harbor Freight. They're perfectly suited for the little Soobs. 2k with 12 feet of cable, and 4k with 6 feet of cable. (built in snatch block) With the car spinning its wheels, a guy pushing on the bumper and a guy cranking on the come-a-long, you can get a soob out of anything. An inch at a time. (I know, I know, but they're much easier to stow than a highlift) I always carried 2 (still do) incase I had to use them at the 4k strength. They will bust, but only if you mis-use them. If one man can't pull the handle by himself, then that's the limit of the come a long. You're not supposed to use bars or more than one guy. They've pulled me or my companions out of maaaaassss crazy situations. And trust me, I've as many stuck Soob's as anybody has. Yep, I cannot wait to get a good 8k WARN into my ARB! You've got one up on me Scott.

I think you get what you pay for. An "A/T" is not a "M/T".

These are what I put on. 27/9.50/14. With the offset of the wheels, I had to use a quarter inch worth of spacers to keep the inside of the tire from rubbing on the strut in the rear. There was room for a taller tire, but not much. In the front they rubbed bad on the plastic mud guard in the wheel well, but no biggie. There's plenty of cutting and trimming to be done to squeeze them. I'd say go with the 27s.

Yes indeed! The last time out my buddy's 35 inch boggers couldn't get him out of the mud hole at my Father's cabin. His 8k winch pulled him right out, pulled me out after him too. Made me realize just how crazy we can get with a winch. For the most part, a good come-a-long will do fine for a Soob, but Rob's hatch and ones like it get to be quite a bit heavier than the average. That winch will be your new best friend. When are we going to Evans?

The swampers are the out and out best offroad tire I've every used, and I've had a lot of tires. (But they're expensive, and you gotta have 5!) With a 4/3, you can get some on with minimal cutting and bashing. You'll always have to beat back your floor and bend back the fold under the plastic mud shield, no matter what you put on right? It's totally possible to do it and keep your car pretty with no rubbing. Hard as hell to beat the look. I think Kumhos kick rump roast on the Coopers. They're cheap enough and come with a 6 ply side wall now. They've got a new design. I run them on my Impreza for rally cross and have wheeled them and wheeled them a little. No damage after ripping thru ice that was inches thick. Great in mud. They are a true M/T.

What's the legal bumper height, and where do they measure it from? Other than that, I'm street legal.

LOL Actually, that's my brother's girlfriend's. They lived in LA for awhile and rode them along the beach a lot. His (the black one) is really long like a limmo or something, the pink one has flower patterns for tread on the tires. lol My bike is purple.

Weather shmeather. I've got a big garage to hide in and a pop up to cover the barbie with. PM me for my addy if you wanna mke it.

Remember, we'll have the gazeebo for alcohol consumption, more of you will keep me company in there this time. The big cooler and dry ice should be there again too.

How about around 2 or so? Hopefully this rain will flick off. I have the garage to hunker down in if it does rain. Of course. COme meet a couple of us, you'll have some familiar faces for the WCSS.

No of course not, I just hate making people drive long distances for just a few hours' event. A couple of my buddies are gonna come over. I'll fire it up either way.

Easy there. . . You'll notice I posted about the clearance on my Soob. I didn't bring up the truck till comparisons started getting made. Just for reference, hardly a pick of my Toy. You'll notice that in the next sentence I talked about another Soob I owned. But I would like you to show me the other threads that make you say "whenever".

I thought about the SRP one, but it's too far away and will just be the same nasioc crew. Nobody I really know, all driving shiny new wrx's. I wanna get some kind of Evans Creek meet planned. Just a feeler. . .

I'm thinking about barbie Q ing on Saturday the 20th. Any of you free that day? Little get-together shoot the shnit about Soobies and stuff. . .

Ya know, I can't say I remember anyone actually taking one of these to a dyno after correctly installing a weber and coil pack. I can say from experience that the cars I've put them on got huge gains in power, and still got better than or about 25 mpg. I removed all of my emmissions stuff. McBrat has a diagram in the repair manual that shows the way to hook it up. And Hatchy, all of the above learned what they know about Soobs by showing up here and asking questions. Don't feel bad, there's always one or two sour apples in the bunch. Often I'm one of them. Keep your eye out for our next local (to the greater Seattle area) get-together, you'll find we're a pretty close knit bunch of guys and gals. You'll like (most) of us just fine.

Never can tell. . . The pumpkins on my Toyota are at 10 1/2 inches, there's 17 under the transfercase mount. That's with 33s and only a 3 inch lift. But. I took the last hatch I had and put it next to a Rubicon at the dealership. With a 4/3 and 27s, the hatch had more clearance all the way around. There was only 9 inches under the transfer case on the Rubicon. yeah. . . My hatch had almost 16 to the exaust in the center.