nipper Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 ewwwwwwwww caned beer .. lets just say its the best thing since sliced bread nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyirishmen Posted December 4, 2005 Author Share Posted December 4, 2005 Do you see the extra lever. Why has Subaru neglected us all of these years, I protest their bad tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. RX Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Why has Subaru neglected us all of these years, I protest their bad tactics.They kept the WRX away from us for almost 10 years, now you can get a turbo in everything except a B9. Maybe it's coming, but then we'll have to buy new cars instead of making our favorite ones better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnlyfnd Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 The only reason why I haven't got a lift, is because there is no "low" in my outback...............man, I can't wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handtool Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 But, it looks like previous models of outbacks and legacy's may have had the dual range, QUOTE] Put me down for a low mileage used tranny, if the price is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyewdall Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 This translates into an overall ratio of Dual range high 1st 13.47 5th 3.218 Dual range low 1st 16.11 5th 3.849 Single range 1st 14.57 5th 3.580 So by switching to a dual range you get a little lower 1st gear, and a little higher 5th gear. But would you have to swap out the rear diff with a 3.9? But I thought the US spec outbacks came with a 3.9 rear diff already, not the 4.11 rear that fnlyfnd quoted. I still want a 1.82 low range like the older gen subaru's dual range had... 5mt D/R Gear ratio1st 3.454 2nd 2.062 3rd 1.448 4th 1.088 5th 0.825 Reverse 3.333 Final reduction gear ratio 3.900 Auxiliary transmission ratio (low) 1.196 ^^^^This is from subaru global website.... 2.2 5mt gear ratios 1st 3.545 2nd 2.111 3rd 1.448 4th 1.088 5th 0.871 Final 4.111 What would the difference in gear ratios from the 5mt - 5mt d/r cause? The final is the biggest difference, there is very little difference in each gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyirishmen Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 The newer motors have a significant jump in power compared to the old motors, so the extremely lower gearing is not needed. I mean yes you could use it for some rock crawling, but hwy driving would not be as practical unless you had the new dual range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnlyfnd Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Anyone know about the diff......if a new diff is needed I'm most likely out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superu Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Like everyone else, I'd certainly like to know the cost... I know you can get a redone dual range through Mudrat w/ lockers for around a grand (forester ranger has he first d/r in a US forester) But I'd more like a tranny that's built for an AE2.2 rather than dealing with a newer engine.. A rebuilt d/r for my 95 lagacy would certainly be sweet!! I've got the height (outback srut lift), but can't do steep, about anything else I'm cool with... Keep us posted, I may be psyched for the right price... We are looking at importing the new dual range that subaru offers for outbacks down south but not here. Would anyone have any interest in buying one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooptyGL Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo : whats the deal with these new dual range's.....any idea on a price yet......im guessing your ship hasn't come in yet. - neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subeman90 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 interested also....would like to know cost. Also, as someone else said....if there are some coupd rear windows with wiper holes in them I would love to talk about that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 interested also....would like to know cost. Also, as someone else said....if there are some coupd rear windows with wiper holes in them I would love to talk about that too. Have you spoken with a glass or mirror shop about drilling a hole? maybe you could snag a coupla normal rear windows from the wrecking yard - or even practice on some non-soob window first - and use a diamond bit to drill a hole. If there is a custom aquarium builder or a Gem & Mineral club in the area, they may have some ideas for you too. Before cheap diamond was availble, folk would use copper tubing and silicon carbide grit (say - 60-90 grit), adapt the tubing to be chucked in a drill press, build a 'well' with modeling clay around the intended hole area, use water and grit slurry and the copper tubing would eneventually grind through the glass. 'Rockhounds' make clocks this way in slabs of pertrified wood and agate - much harder than glass. If you drilled 2 or 3, you could probably sell the xtras to pay for everything such that your window was free! (except maybe for the labor) http://www.cyberrockhound.com/lapidary_diamond_drills.htm just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camosuba Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Could you imagine using four low in a turbo! That would be just nutty up hill climbs. Yes it makes for lots of torque with the low range and the extra power of the turbo but the only downside is the reliability of the gearset i have a friend with a turbo EJ20 wagon with a dual range box and he has just rebuilt for the 3rd time as many months second gear has failed twice but hes getting better at fixing it i also have a EJ20T in a 92 liberty sedan with a dual range now, it used to be an auto but i got sick of fixing it. the auto that is. but i expect i'll have to play with the manual eventually as they just dont last as long as the proper turbo manual boxes. But thems the breaks regards camo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thingol Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I am really interested in this as well, as I just got my lift done on my 98 Legacy, and if the numbers for ratios quoted above are correct, this would be perfect with my 27" BFGs, as in High it would return my gearing to stock, fixing the speedo and odometer inaccuracies, and in low it would give me the little extra needed for those steep hills. Keep us updated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooptyGL Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I am really interested in this as well, as I just got my lift done on my 98 Legacy, and if the numbers for ratios quoted above are correct, this would be perfect with my 27" BFGs, as in High it would return my gearing to stock, fixing the speedo and odometer inaccuracies, and in low it would give me the little extra needed for those steep hills. Keep us updated! this thread is a bit to unque for me to be thrown into the annals of the message board. shadyirishman what is the deal dude?!?!?! i would buy one if the price was reasonable and i dont even have an ej for it to go into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahDL88 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 The newer motors have a significant jump in power compared to the old motors, so the extremely lower gearing is not needed. I mean yes you could use it for some rock crawling, but hwy driving would not be as practical unless you had the new dual range. Umm, isn't that the point, the low range for rock crawling and the high range for highway? I find highwya driving very practial with the old dual range, 35 mpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. RX Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Anyone know about the diff......if a new diff is needed I'm most likely outIt states that the final ratio is 3.90, I don't think you'll need a different diff (unless you're running something other then a 3.90). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. RX Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 It's been a month since this was first posted and no prices yet, I'm wondering if the Irishman is pulling our chain, after all, isn't part of his name 'shady'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 i've done biz with the cat and have nothing but good things to say.......as far as a tranny,who knows ....but watch how you say stuff like that man......it could be misconstrued easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88HatchMonster Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I believe he went to Costa Rica to find a source for importing the trannies but found there wasn't a large enough supply there. Last I knew he was going to look into getting them from Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodaka Rider Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 You've got it. He prefers to do business like that face-to-face, instead of just calling someone in Oz or elsewhere and saying "Ya, send me a crate of them there trannys". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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