Jon Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 My 1984 GL wagon shifts into 4wd hi and low just fine, and seems to pull with the best of them. However, getting it OUT of 4wd is a pain. I mean, I really have to beat the crap out of the shifter to get it back into 2wd. I've tried it in and out of gear and while moving or while stopped. Am I doing something wrong? Or is there another issue here. I've checked/filled the trans oil and filled the rear end differential. I'll appreciate your thoughts. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbobdole Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Are you driving it on the dry pavement? Thats a no no, but to get it out easier, try backing up a bit, that usually helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubaruJunkie Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Yeah, make sure your not using it on pavement and all will be good. The reason its hard to disengage is the built up tension inside the tranny. Reverse will releave it. -Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausubaru92 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 I find it hepls if I accelerate or brake while trying to disengage it. I use my 4wd on gravel or grass but i find sometimes these surfaces can still make it hard to disengage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauregaardhooligan Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Make sure your front wheels are straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Also it helps immensely if ALL four tyres are 1) of the same manufacturer 2) of the same size 3) inflated to the same pressure. I believe, as stated, you will find reversing for 3 or so meters will relieve the bind and allow for easy disengagement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northguy Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Back it onto gravel when you do it, or onto the grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiemech85 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 in grass down hill in reverse, park brake set works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 It has been my experience with several Brats and a few GL's that simply reversing will unwind the bind. No slippery surface is needed but is always appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtsmiths Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 All I ever had to do in our '87 GL was back off the gas and shift it out ... wet, dry, snow, gravel, grass, pavement, it never seemed to matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torxxx Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 well if your tires have more then a 1/8" inch tread differenece it will make the rear diff bind up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenTBK Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 You ARE depressing the clutch pedal when you try to shift it between 2/4wd right? Binding or not, I've found that simply depressing the clutch makes it much easier to go between the two.. which is how it was designed to operate anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiemech85 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 no, no, no, no, that's all wrong, it is designed to go between 4wd and 2wd while moving without using the clutch, "shift on the fly" when you want to shift between 4wd hi and 4wd LOW, you MUST clutch, unless you are stopped and the engine is off TIP: if you can not shoft between 2wd and 4wd, becaue there is a horrible grinding syncromesh sound, and when in 2wd you hear a grinding and when in 4wd, the noise goes away, you may have blown a rear axle, btdt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenTBK Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 I still shift on the fly.. but I thought I remembered reading a recommendation for clutching between 2/4wd in my owners manual a longtime ago. I must go look again, as I most likely sped through it and picked out only what I wanted to read. Till then, I consider myself enlightened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 The operation label on the console tells you to use the clutch. The rear axle and diff have very little to do with your problem. The rear diff is open so the axles have no issues with the transfer part of your trans. There is not a center diff on this system. The system has no way to relieve bind up other than tire slippage from terrain. You are indeed experiencing bind. The info you got to back up will 99% of the time remedy the problem. Also, never use it on a surface that does not allow tire slippage, ie, tarmac, street, concrete, etc. The problem lies in one or more of the following issues. Using the 4WD system in/on the wrong situations and surfaces. Incorrectly matched tires, diferent size/diameter. This system is very sensitive to small differences in tire size. Make sure they are the same brand, size and wear is even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahag1978 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I saw one stop moving completely... mismatched tires on dry pavement. Also, don't try to engage or disengage your 4WD while cornering, your wheels must be straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudduck Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 the t-case is just wound up. backing up a little should upwind it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbobdole Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 actually you can shift in and out of 4wd lo when moving. The book says 35 mph and below and clutch is a must. I also use the clutch when even I shift it, where ever I shift it, no noise no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left_coast*9 Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Ok, don't mean to hijack this thread, but I have a 1985 (86?) GL-10 turbo w/5spd s/r tranny. The 4WD is engaged via "pushbutton" btwn the front seats. Is it OK to engage the 4WD while moving? Someone told me the car has to be stopped. I thought all 4WD subes were shift on the fly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSSLGECKO Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 As I recall the PB that I had long ago was shift on the fly. You're all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSSLGECKO Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 What is the top speed that you are supposed to go (maximum) in a 5 Spd D/R in Hi and Lo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganM Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 What is the top speed that you are supposed to go (maximum) in a 5 Spd D/R in Hi and Lo? Redline (btw I'm just kidding :-p you should operate your Subaru according to the Owners Manual but what fun is that? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbobdole Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Ok, my mistake. Rereading the book tells me 20 MPH or less to shift into Lo. Also pushbutton 4wd is on the fly, no clutch needed. Redline Actually the book states: Maximum Speed Limits Never drive with the tachometer needle in the critical engine speed range except for breif acceleration in an emergency. And thats right in the 4wd section! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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