archemitis Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 hrm. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33578&item=2450494975 what do you think? 12 hp increase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLCraig Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 ROTFLMHO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northguy Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 Well, at least 3 hp+ for the cool blue color alone. I wonder if I can get one with multiple neon-colored wires, like lime green, hot pink, day-glo orange...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 Not completely untrue. Most ground wires are too small. Just enough to ground the system. The newer cars seem to be more ground sensitive then even our cars. 15 HP I doubt, A couple of HP could be gained by all the electical components working at peak performance. Still, at first glance it is quite funny to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleiades Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 It's supposed to make a big difference, not really in the HP range, but in driveablity with the new soobs. (didn't look at the link, but the whole better grounds thing anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcomp Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 having more /better grounding wires will help not sure about how much of a increase you could expect i did read a article in a import mag while waiting at the store where they did a dyno test before and after the wires and there was a difference <sp> on the dyno the other nice side benefit is the decreased radio noise a litle more efficiant charging system i would assume that the fuel injected system might like it since having more ground paths would most likely result in more stable sensor signals especialy in crappy weather / offroading and last but not least a few links i picked out and a list search engine results http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread/t-422.html http://www.international-auto.com/tbgroundcable.html http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=74745 http://search7.vivisimo.com/search?subquery=dyno&v%3Afile=viv_14ac7aab1d096b69b3e22cc189097bca&v%3Aframe=results&v%3Astate=%28root%29%7Croot-0-20%7C1&v%3Asubsearch=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSNRG Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Hey it's only $17.49 and for a mere $19.99 more he'll ship it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcomp Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 yeah i love those lets make a killing on the shipping types hey look a 2 dollar item and well ship it for the super low price of 30$ lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partsman Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 It's the "handling" charge that gets you - since the guy charges $90/hr for his time - must be a lawyer or a dealership mekanik! Partsman 88 GL wagon 5spd D/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 pretty much the reason i dont shop Ebay.. shipping is a ripoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauregaardhooligan Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Couldn't you just use a hunk of battery cable? Gotta love that "No local pick-up," making all his money off the S&H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcomp Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 car stero shop get some 10 gauge power wire got it in all sorts of colors including fancy gold plated connectors <soldering them is better than crimpinng> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemitis Posted December 28, 2003 Author Share Posted December 28, 2003 guage welding cable, is what my car is grounded with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glkiller Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 In copper, the electricity flows on the outside of the wire first, inside with higher load. The smaller stranded yet thick wire like welding cable would be best but the big thing is to GROUND THE HEAD. More spark=more power. Split your grounds to many places for long lasting power windows, locks, lights, radio, dash, heater, etc... Look at an old suby ground and then check out any new car. I've seen 3 ground wires on th fuel injection alone and more on heads. Old suby has one ground from engine to batt and one to chassy. REDUNDANCY is good. Less load=less corossion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Holy 3 year old thread Batman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffast Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 ya serously where did this come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 well you know it just happens sometimes when someone gets to searching through a bunch of threads.. and reading them all.. and finally decides to have his two bits in on the subject!! its a brain fart, i have come SOO close to posting in some old threads i read while searching.... but it seems to mostly happen to new users. thats my theory, anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Posting to it only keeps it near the top. :-p Stop posting and it will go away. Edit: One other thing.. I think people who would trust something like that on ebay deserve to be ripped off. Grow a brain? If you have a issue with high postage, don't buy it. Sorry, getting into the ebay rubbish now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Posting to it only keeps it near the top. :-p Stop posting and it will go away. Edit: One other thing.. I think people who would trust something like that on ebay deserve to be ripped off. Grow a brain? If you have a issue with high postage, don't buy it. Sorry, getting into the ebay rubbish now. LOL, funny, people all have an opinion about grounding. While most will agree that grounding is good. How much is a good thing is the question that remains to be debated. I have run those "extra" ground kits before. While 12 hp is a stretch. Better spark and freer flowing current has to add something. And if I want more HP I will just add a couple of decals!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 LOL, funny, people all have an opinion about grounding. While most will agree that grounding is good. How much is a good thing is the question that remains to be debated. I have run those "extra" ground kits before. While 12 hp is a stretch. Better spark and freer flowing current has to add something. Absolutely. Smoothed out my idle and helps keep my digidash under control. I wish I had spent the money on one of the cool bright green kits. I hear those are good for 35+HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 But seriously, making your own new ground wires is as easy as making toast. And a fair bit cheaper then $20... I can see how if you had totaly stuffed ground wires you could lose 12hp. But then starting would be almost impossible surely? 300amps through a wire that has trouble making a spark plug fire? Maybe see 2hp gain on a dyno, but I doubt you'd feel it with the butt dyno. Fixing/upgrading your grounds is a good idea. But spending that much on a kit is just... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Soooo...... what y'all are sayin' is that $20 is a good deal for a ground wire kit ??!!! I just ordered two !!! Just keep in mind that not only adding grounds but also keeping them as short as possible will help too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davalos Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Oh Man!!! This listing (2450494975) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number. Damn, I wish I couldda seen this. Is this like the Jesus French Fries? ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 This listing (2450494975) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number. that's because it's 3 years old :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davalos Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Heh ... wow. Guess that part went riiiiiight by me, hehe! That would put it right about the time of the Jesus Toast, tho, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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