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Tell me how good your soob is
Posted 03 September 2003 - 10:54 AM
However, when I first started reading the various threads, I got apprehensive about buying a Subaru. Nearly all of them are about problems. Intellectually, I knew that a Subaru is a machine, and that no machine is perfect, but I still wanted to hear more positive things about the car I was about to buy.
So, I would like to hear about some of the fantastic things your Subaru has been through: Very high mileage? Great mpg? Done some serious off roading? Driven to far away places? Hauled large loads?
I'll start: I live on an Apache reservation in Eastern Arizona, where there are plenty of unpaved, washboard mountain roads to explore. My car, with over 102,000 miles, performs perfectly. I bought it from a Hopi woman, who had driven thousands of miles to and from her family's home on the Hopi resevation, where there is a lot of sand and even more washboard. It performed pefectly for her, too.
What say you?
Posted 03 September 2003 - 12:17 PM
I originally found the board when I had a CEL issue, and have solved the problem plus learned so much more valuable information.
Now back to topic. My current Soob is a 97 Legacy Sedan, 2.2 w 4AT. I bought it in 99 with 40K miles and now have over 160K. Over the past week I have been trying to recollect the total service costs over these 120K that I have owned it. I haven’t kept good records but I would guess that including oil changes, timing belts, brakes, an oil pump, tune-ups, and everything else other than tires and gas I have spent around $1000. And most of that bill was paying other people to do the timing belts, oil pump.
I drive my car hard, quick acceleration, hard braking, tight turns. My employees call my car the “Company Jet”. I have hauled all sorts of medical equipment, through all sorts of conditions. It pulled me through the blizzard last winter when we got the 2-3 feet of snow, only getting stuck when I got cocky and tried to power through a plowed drift. I have done some mild off road driving through brush and water. Here is a link to a picture of a Brat driving through a stream/marsh that I also drove through. (this was with the East Coast/ New Jersey Pine Barrens meet, there is another coming up in Oct-Nov if anyone is interested.
Other than a dead battery it has never left me set. It has at times been neglected going 7K between oil changes. I don’t burn or leak oil. And there is only a slight decrease in power over that time. I have never done anything to the AT and it still shifts like it did 4 years ago, at this point, I’m afraid to change the fluid and let the “magic” out.
I don’t want to take up more space praising my 5 previous Soobs, but the stories would be similar.
I love my Soob and have talked friends and family into buying them. I will be buying another one before too long. (May wait for the turbo legacy)
Posted 03 September 2003 - 12:29 PM
Subarus are all over the place in this part of the US, and now I know why.
Posted 03 September 2003 - 01:07 PM
I'm quite pleased with my Subaru's.
Posted 03 September 2003 - 01:44 PM
Posted 03 September 2003 - 05:34 PM
Posted 03 September 2003 - 06:39 PM
my first was a 90 legacy 5mt AWD i traded for a computer...that thing had 250k when i got it, rusty as all hell..i only fixed the rust, never changed to oil and it still ran with a blown clutch 4 flat tires and side swiped by a 95 legacy when i got rid of it w/268k miles...it was looking extremely bad....actually i have some pic's....
i still have some strong feeling for this scooby as it was my first....
since then ive had a 91 L sedan, 90 L wagon, a 93 5mt turbo and now i have a 91 LSi and a 93 impreza....
ive done alot of work to the 91 LSi (my daily driver)
the turbo rolled one snowy day so i pulled all the interior, the 2 pot calipers, rims and tires off and put them on the LSI, and also bought 4 KYB-GR2's...changed the engine in the LSi so the chassis has 130k but the drive train has 80K and runs baeautifully...
im never driving anything else...unless i HAVE TO....
Posted 03 September 2003 - 09:35 PM
My first gent 1990 Legacy wagon was awsome! It only gave me minor problems here and there. Mostly funny electrical quirks in the cabin. The worst problems I had with it was a fuel injector (that was hard beucase I had never diagnosed an MPFI engine nor worked on an MPFI system! but man did I learn alot) and a wheel bearing went out.
I gave that thing hell. Put on around 100 miles a day, every day for months at a time. Drove it hard! She loved to be manualy shifted Pulled hard and snaped your neck a bit when shifting her by hand. Gave her away to a friend with 178,000 miles or so on it. He broke it a week later, moved back to texas and left it for the city.
My 1988 GL wagon has been kind of a lemon. Its a weird little car. Something will break, I pull it in and fix it, go to drive her and something completly irrelivent has broke just sitting there. I dont get it.
I orginaly bought the car as a winter beater so I could park my hot rod (1981 Buick Regal w/ 472ci engine + TH350 tranny) By the time winter was over I was IN LOVE Even when I cracked a head, started pissing coolant everywhere, and mixing oil with coolant the whole way I said "No way can I sell this! I'm rebuilding it!"
They all thought I was crazy... and still do
ANyway Subarus rule!
Posted 04 September 2003 - 06:41 PM
Posted 04 September 2003 - 07:55 PM
I have gotten unhealthily angry at it before, so much so that I would take it to 7000rpm when the redline is 6500, but even with such abusive driving, the engine still runs flawlessly and has never failed.
I have maintained it very meticulously, everything is up to date, except the brakes. The car has never driven more than 4000 miles on the same oil, it has fresh coolant, the air filter is new, as are the plugs, the fuel filter, tranny and diff oil are new, etc etc... So I take partial credit for its fine reliability by maintaining it properly...
My XT has not been in my possession for 3 weeks yet, but I'm quickly falling in love with it. It has the familiar growl and torque of a Subaru boxer engine, but the handling and interior design are refreshingly different from the Legacy. It too has performed flawlessly since its purchase...
All these fine experiences and the fact that I have ridden in an STi, which was literally a dream come true, should have me pretty much stuck on Subies for life...
Posted 05 September 2003 - 04:45 AM
Well, I have spent money equivalent to the cost of the car (used 2yrs ago) so it hasn't been dirt cheap. However, some of the things I have done weren't strictly necessary, but I like everything to be in tip top order - like new springs and dampers all round: KER-Ching!
The sound this engine makes, from the race car rush of air through my modified intake, to the turbine whine of the crankshaft, ending at the off-beat growl from the exhaust...well, let's just say that every tunnel is a chance to drop a gear and floor the throttle
The way it will still pull 130mph even with 290,000km on the odometer, and cruise very quietly at 90mph ALL day. Okay, so the 4WD slows it down a bit, could be quicker for a car with 100KW, but that same 4WD lets me put to shame many faster cars in Denmark's wet weather Including a motorcycle recently!!
Mine has never left me stranded either. (Knock on wood)
The anonimty of the elegant design. Many passengers gawp wide-eyed when the throttle valve is snapped open: "Oh, when you see this car you don't think it will be this fast."
But the real clincher is the way this car HANDLES! WOW! Sometimes when I throw it into a bend I swear I can tell it's trying to proctect me! No matter how much either end is sliding there is always a way to influence the path. All the while the steering wheel is alive with information about the road surface beneath the front wheels! SO few new cars display this sort of forgiveness and feedback.
Posted 05 September 2003 - 12:48 PM
It has been a great car and if it weren't for rust holes on the belly pan I would continue to drive it daily. It is now going to become an off-road buggy for the family.
Guess what we replaced the old Subaru with?.......another Subaru! without a question.
We just purchased a used 01 Forester and I love it too!
Maybe in another 20 years I'll buy another?
For what it's worth,
82 Hatch, transforming....:temper:
01 Forester, jealous...:madder:
Posted 05 September 2003 - 02:01 PM
Posted 06 September 2003 - 10:18 AM
I've had my OB for over 50K miles, and I bought it used with over 40K. While I have had a few things repaired, it's NEVER stranded me. It's taken me on adventures from the deserts to the mountain here in Utah, and done so very capably. It's great in the snow. It's gone off-pavement places no "normal" passenger car would want to go, and yet handles better than many cars I have driven.
We bought my fiancee an '03 Impreza TS this year, and she loves it. I love to drive it as well, very fun and responsive. We like this car enough that we're using it to drive to CA and OR for our honeymoon in two weeks. I'm looking forward to years of enjoyable driving in this car as well... when she lets me drive it
Thanks for starting this thread, it's good to see people sharing their stories about these cars that we love!
Posted 06 September 2003 - 12:22 PM
The infamous hesitation cause by an over sensitve knock sensor(most likely)
An engine vibration at 1500-3000 RPM(seems like a miss)
Exhaust leak that I can't find.
All of these problems have been diagnosed as "normal" by the dealer. They suck.
Other than that I like the way the car handles and rides. The AWD is great. Other than the problems above, the car is pretty much flawless.
I probably would buy another Subaru, just not with the 2.5 motor.
Posted 07 September 2003 - 11:46 AM
It failed state inspection once (steering rack), siezed calipers, waterpump left me stranded on the side of the road at 60K...and thats about it
The car also had $3500 in body damage when it was crushed by snow that fell off of a roof in the winter of 2002, and suffered another $700 when someone kicked my trunk in a few months ago.
Its one tough car though. It has brought be through incredible snowstorms, it can drive through 3 feet of snow no problem (yeah, its deep when its up to your hood), its been through stream crossings, rough rocky trails, and even one rally cross event. I put on over 2K miles a month this past summer, and its still chuggin...I cant wait for a replacemt though once I graduate college in the spring. I want this one to get well over 100K and then I am getting a manual tranny Subaru Trying to convince the gf to get a mini cooper though:D
Posted 07 September 2003 - 02:00 PM
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 06:42 PM
It was great
Posted 27 January 2006 - 08:05 PM
Posted 27 January 2006 - 10:08 PM
The Legacy I got in 1998, with 110K on it, and has been prolly the best car I've ever owned. Ive done some work on it, mostly normal maintainance, things like alternator, brakes, CV boots, clutches, A/C. Still going strong at almost 257K as my wifes daily driver. I haver never touched the engine or transmission except for manitainance items(timing belt, plugs, fluid changes, water pump). Was a good roadtrip car for many years(now replaced by a 99 LeSabre), still would not hesitate to go for a long road trip in it.
Sister bought new 96 Legacy AWD EJ22 5MT in snow country, and loves it. Before buying the LeSabre, I inquired if she might be "getting tired of it after 120K"-no such luck!
Posted 27 January 2006 - 10:18 PM
Go back a few years. Wife was driving a '96 Saturn SL1 sedan. I bought a '92 (I think) Loyale Wagon with the pushbutton 4WD. At the time, we lived in Troy,NY... that city has a problem with plowing their streets during the winter. Add in a new mayor that refused to declare a snow emergency, and there was as much as six inches of snow right where we needed to park on the street. Wife's Saturn would constantly need to be pushed in or out of the parking spot, or have it shoveled clear. I took her out one day in my Loyale, and as we were coming back, I simply hit the 4wd button and parked in the six inches or so of snow. Wife's jaw dropped, and asked "How'd you do that?"
Suddenly that "ugly wagon" became something in her eyes .
My Loyale rusted out, and it was a while before I could get back into a Subaru. When the Cougar I was using for a temporary ride wasn't worth repairing, I started looking for another car. The tranny was starting to act up on the wife's Saturn, so she started looking too... and found an '00 Outback Wagon that she fell in love with. Chalk up another converted another one .
I ended up finding a '97 Outback Wagon, though I really wanted a '96 Outback Sport (couldn't find a single one in NY state for sale, 'cept one with over 200k miles for $3,000 that was looser than a 25 cent... well... um... yeah...).
Major problems? Wife's OBW started up an external headgasket leak, which was covered by Subaru under warranty. Had a timing belt tensioner replaced at the same time, not under warranty. I was very impressed by the Subaru dealership we had the work done under, enough so that I'll be considering them first for my next Subie. My '97 has had a plugged radiator that my used car sales/garage refused to diagnose correctly, so it's on its third engine. Finally swapped in a 2.2L instead of a Phase 1 2.5L, and I'm not looking back.
The wife's OBW has been nothing but reliable so far, and she loves it. Feels secure in it because of the size and weight, and that it's not prone to rolling like her friends' SUVs. I caught her actually playing with it in the snow the other day... this coming from a woman who used to hate driving in snow .
My '97 has got a lot of "character"... and things that need to be fixed. I still need to swap out that radiator, along with an oxygen sensor with a bad heater. Most of the rear defroster lines are broken. There are a couple indicator lights that are burned out, and need to be replaced. All of this is "tiddly stuff", though... I can replace/repair it as it bugs me, and it's extremely easy. A $15 Haynes manual gives me most of the info I need, along with the community on this wonderful board . In contrast, I hated working on that '93 Mercury Cougar, since everything was just a pain in the arse to get to, remove, and put back in. My OBW just makes sense to me.
Posted 28 January 2006 - 10:30 PM
I got my 96 2.2L OBW with 58,000 miles on it back in 2000. It now has over 150,000 miles on it. I'm about to put the third set of Michelin tires the car has ever seen. The tires and the awd have kept me on the road in "cat's-n-dog's" rain where I couldn't see 20 feet in front of me, dirt road corners sideways, snow 2 feet deep, and squeeling around dry pavement 20mph suggested corners at 45. I've had to replace a torn cv boot at about 135,000, replaced a seized rear brake caliper at about 140,000. Those are the only "major" repairs done, and I was able to do both the repairs myself with the shop manual. I've also done the normal maintenance stuff like oil changes, spark plugs, air filter, fuel filter, radiator flushes, manual tranny oil, brake pads, brake hoses, and replacing the plastic fog lights as they get broken by flying rocks on the road(that's one of the things I wish my roo had, is a better fog light protectors). I've used my roo to haul about 1300 lbs of stuff in a u-haul trailer up and down the mountains from Wisconsin to Seattle a couple of times. I'm a big roo fan, because the car handles very well in a lot of conditions, and with a 5speed, I can feel what the car is going to do in any situation. Not to meantion that it has very high marks in crash test results, so I'm not afraid to find the edge of it's capabilities.
I'll be driving this roo for at least another 100,000 as I understand the 2.2L will most likely go that and some. I'll probably need to swap in a rebuilt manual transmission here in the next 20,000, but other than that, she's still going strong.
I've been eyeing the new outback wagons. I like their styling, and they don't have the B9 nose yet. I'll probably upgrade to the 3.0L, as it's always fun to have more displacement and I need a little more towing power. But that may not be for another 4-5 years.
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